About Fabian

[Sakura26]

I must say that I also think Fabian is some kind of invention to attack us. I could be wrong, of course, but, it seems that they trying to hit our biggest weapon, which is the common belief of Argentines about the Falklands/Malvinas being our territory. Except for Nora, and in a very lower level, maybe Karina Mammi, the rest of us, are very united an completely convinced of the sovereignty we should have over that territory. I'm very sad, because it's seems that they are our women the ones giving up..... have you all forgotten your husbands, brothers, fathers who gave their lives in the attempt of recovering our territories? I'm in favour of peaceful talks, but it doesnt mean I'm going to drop the claim....
What would happen with the Falklanders, it's in fact, something that the UK has to solve. Who set them there, in illegal, stolen territories? Them, so let them solve their lives. However, being Argentina a land of friendship and understanding, I do not see any problem in letting them stay there, even stay as british, but they must understand that the territory doesnt belong to the UK, it was a lie, it was forcefully taken and MUST be returned to the owners.
I think our best chance of getting them back, is the fact that everybody here knows where the Malvinas/Falklands are, what they are, and what country they really belong to. And plus, Argentina has been one of the little countries who keep claiming after so much time. That's what the UK can't believe, we didnt give up, and we wont. The government has already thought about giving the islands back to Argentina, their only obstacle, are the Falklanders. If we keep making pressure, we're going to recover them. So dont give up, ever!!

Best Regards
Noelia

[Hutch]

Noelia.

Don't worry about some of your fellow Argentines or S.Americans not supporting the Argentine claim. They are allowed to disagree with your opinion in a democracy arent they? There are people here in the UK- businessmen, journalists, politicians even-who believe that the FI should be given to Argentina. It doesent weaken the belief of those who don't agree with them, but provides for healthy debate and discussion.

If the 'common belief of Argentines' is the biggest weapon, then perhaps that may be a reason why Argentina seems so very far away from even attaining shared soverignty discussions over the FI-unlike Spain and Gibraltar.A strong belief can be good but it is of course not an end in itself, as im sure you're aware.

Maybe some women remember the fact that their husbands, brothers, fathers did give their lives to try and take the FI and that it just wasnt worth it.Maybe thats why some of them are not so steadfast in their support for Argentinas claim. Would having control of the Islands really be worth undergoing another Belgrano?Or two, three, four of them?

Some things are worth dieing for but they are few and far between. Saving someone else, freeing people, stopping a terrible injustice and so on are perhaps worth putting your life at risk for. A scrap of land and a firm belief? I'm not so sure about that.

All the best,

Hutch

[jessefoxlet]

Is this Fabian the American singer of the sixties, or that baldy headed fella from Scotland Yard ?

[Sakura26]

Hello Jesse

I do not worry about Fabian at all. And I believe you're wrong, Argentina is not far from recovering the islands, from my point of view.

Welcome to the forum

Sakura

[JollyRoger]

I believe that Argentina has enough problems without trying to take a few islands that have belonged to someone else for a long time.


Think of Germany, we had SW Africa and Tansania, and many small islands in the Pacific. We did not give them away, they were taken. But we moved on and since then have advance into a prosperous country. Why does the Argentine not do the same, instead of trying to repeat the silly adventure of the 1980s.

Move on and try to make your own country prosperous, do not live in the past. Join the world, and make your people happy and rich.

[WCWSWC]

Sakura26 said:

Hello Jesse

I do not worry about Fabian at all. And I believe you're wrong, Argentina is not far from recovering the islands, from my point of view.

Welcome to the forum

Sakura

I think Argentina is a long way from getting the islands....infact i think you have 2 hopes..

1. Bob Hope

2. NO hope

or at least not in the life time off most of the members of this forum..your self included and only being a young girl no doubt you have a lot of years left.

WCWSWC

[Sakura26]

Well, it's a matter of points of view I guess. I do not see things the same way you do, so time will tell.

Sakura