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Post by estebanmclaren on Aug 11, 2004 17:43:30 GMT -3
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Hutch
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Post by Hutch on Aug 12, 2004 6:14:12 GMT -3
You really are hilarious Esteban. A perfect example of why Argentina will never, ever have any degree of soverignty over the Falklands. Once again you do the work of the anti Argentine faction for them by making them seem like utter raving idiots and monsters.
Bravo. You must be very proud of making your fellow countrymen laughing stocks and harming the very cause you claim to support. Bravo.
Hutch
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Post by Sea Eagle on Aug 12, 2004 8:32:40 GMT -3
Hutch,
I echo your sentiments entirely.
Velma Malcolm was a good and very much respected person who had the best interests of Falkland Islanders at heart and was a staunch supporter of self determination.
As I recall, along with other Falkland Islanders, she was arrested by the Argentine authorities in 1982 and exiled from Stanley to Fox Bay where she was detained under house arrest for the duration of the conflict.
Unfortunately this type of treatment of Islanders remains ingrained in the national memory and must colour their response to any Argentine overtures.
Naturally the present Argentine attitude does much to confirm their suspicions that Argentine assurances that they will take the interests of Islanders into consideration rather than give them rights can only be a thinly veiled threat of supression of future democracy and control of their own affairs.
Velma Malcolm was a descendant of a 19th century Scandinavian settler in the Falklands.
Regards,
Ernie
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Post by Sakura26 on Aug 12, 2004 13:37:53 GMT -3
Alright estaban that's it. You obliged me to delete your membership. I asked you kindly not to offend the other parts but it seems you cannot do this.
Noelia
Hutch and Ernie: I remind you that one person is not the whole country. Or do you think we're "losers" as one of your countrymen told us in another posting too? I'd like to think you show more respect to us, the same way I respect you, and I understand that there are a lot of idiots from both sides who care about nothing but fighting. I would never celebrate death, even if she thought different from me. And Ernie, you have the "power" to modify/delete postings that you find insulting for the FI, please do so if you feel you must, because I'm not getting online everyday...
best wishes Noelia
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Hutch
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Post by Hutch on Aug 13, 2004 7:38:22 GMT -3
Noelia.
I'm well aware that one person is not a whole country but Esteban did nothing but mock and degrade Argentina and its people. His posts annoyed and amused me but if I had been an Argentine and seen that written I would have been angry with him.
My comments were'nt to have a go at Argentinians but to point out that it is that kind of rhetoric that does such damage to Argentina and her claim and gives ammunition to her detractors. I had hoped that Esteban would see that his postings were absurd nonsense harming Argentina and that he was the very worst kind of patriot but that seems impossible. A shame as he might have learnt something if he had engaged in debate as closer understanding is what is needed here on all sides.
All the best.
Hutch
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Post by Sakura26 on Aug 13, 2004 11:21:56 GMT -3
Dear Hutch
Although I dont share esteban's actions, I dont feel ashamed at all. A war, is a very sad, shocking event for everybody. There are some countries more used to wars than others though. Fortunately Argentina is a country little related to war. Fighting, and eventually losing a war, always generates anger, and I understand it's difficult to channel that anger so it becomes something useful, like we're trying to do here, it happens to everybody I think, or at least it happens to me. I wished esteban could see things the way I see them, because as I said before, I dont need to insult to defend my points of view. The same goes for your side. People like jessefoxlet, WCWSWC and the MCO bhoy, who are here only to pick on us, are not a good example of the UK's willingness to negotiate. However, I understand their anger and I understand they are not the whole UK, they are not representing you or anyone else, just as esteban is nor representing me.
Best Wishes Noelia
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