For Jolly Roger

[Johnmcd]

My dear Jolly Roger,

The longer you stay in the forum the more you will learn. Most of the Argentine contributors do indeed want the Falklands/Malvinas. How much they want them is another debate since we only hear from those who are fervent in that demand.

But they are not members of the Argentine right-wing. Indeed I know a few that suffered under the old military dictatorships. You need to make a difference between hard-line nationalists and those who simply believe the sovereignty of the Falklands should be handed over.

Personally, I believe that the islands should be what the islanders wish them to be, but without Governorship from the UK. The Falklands islanders are choose to remain a colonial entity and while they do the Argentine claim will always have credence.

Don’t make the mistake of thinking the UK and Argentina will ever again go to war over the islands. That will never happen again. The unique set of circumstances that led to the Argentine invasion of 1982 could never possibly be repeated.

There again in your country, a model modern of democracy, denied the same for the Iraqi people in your ‘de-facto’ support for a mass murderer and tyrant who will now be tried by his own people in a free and democratic state.

Ask questions and learn without making inaccurate assumptions.

Best wishes,
John.

(btw: I’m a British vet of the conflict

[JollyRoger]

Johnmcd said:

My dear Jolly Roger,

The longer you stay in the forum the more you will learn. Most of the Argentine contributors do indeed want the Falklands/Malvinas. How much they want them is another debate since we only hear from those who are fervent in that demand.

But they are not members of the Argentine right-wing. Indeed I know a few that suffered under the old military dictatorships. You need to make a difference between hard-line nationalists and those who simply believe the sovereignty of the Falklands should be handed over.

Personally, I believe that the islands should be what the islanders wish them to be, but without Governorship from the UK. The Falklands islanders are choose to remain a colonial entity and while they do the Argentine claim will always have credence.

Don’t make the mistake of thinking the UK and Argentina will ever again go to war over the islands. That will never happen again. The unique set of circumstances that led to the Argentine invasion of 1982 could never possibly be repeated.

There again in your country, a model modern of democracy, denied the same for the Iraqi people in your ‘de-facto’ support for a mass murderer and tyrant who will now be tried by his own people in a free and democratic state.

Ask questions and learn without making inaccurate assumptions.

Best wishes,
John.

(btw: I’m a British vet of the conflict

Ah I see you want to bring up the subject of Iraq and Germanies resistance to the war there. Sorry, I will not take the bait!

This forum seems to be a 2 sided battle of wills, and very little real discusion. The Falklands / Malvinas only makes an understanding impossible. There is LEFT and there is RIGHT, and neither agrees to disagree.

I will read and learn, I will listen and learn. But only from those who are wise! And on this site, that is almost impossible.

[Johnmcd]

Jolly Roger,
About this forum.
This forum is only days old and a branched development of another forum that has a 7 year history. From that other forum Books, reconciliation strategies have been published from the information and opinion shared. There is real discussion to be had and to engaged in if one is prepared. Each established contributor does have their own theories of how the sovereignty dispute could be resolved. Newer members come do come in, from time to time, with fresh ideas or to support more developed concepts. This new forum, I’m sure, will be no different.

If you have the time and intellectual energy to participate you can certainly learn a great deal. I have.

Yes, there is a battle of wills. Sometimes that ‘battle’ crosses over into cultures and national mindsets. Again, we learn. We learn that one ‘cosy’ view of the world can be diametrically opposed elsewhere. But the fact that people are talking outside of a set political arena must be positive.

My own view is that:

The Falkland Islanders future lies within developing greater autonomy by casting off the old colonial yoke and becoming a partner in the SW Atlantic economy. In that short sentence lies a whole host of difficulties. Those difficulties get debated here.

Best wishes,
John.